An
Interview with Gail Williams
reprinted from International Musician
October, 2001
Meanwhile, Back on the Farm...
Horns have been a common theme running through Gail Williams' life
-surrounded by them every day on the Holstein dairy farm where she grew
up, and surrounded by them again for more than three decades in one of the
word's greatest orchestras.
At first glance, Associate Principal Horn of the Chicago Symphony
Orchestra might seem a rather unlikely place for a former Western New York
State farm girl to wind up. But listening to Gail, it's easy to believe
that a dairy farm is actually seriously good training for a life in music:
both involve a love of what you do, tremendous dedication, and sheer hard
work. Add to this the fact that Gail was the only girl in her family,
surrounded by older brothers-not too terribly different from being the
only woman in the Chicago brass section in 1979, the year she joined the
orchestra—and it's obvious that her farm upbringing really was excellent
preparation, after all. "Growing up on a farm and working with men," Gail
recalls, "I was expected to go into the barn and work, just like my
brothers, and I never thought anything about it. My father would say `go
out and do your chores,' and I just went out and did them. I never
thought, `well, I can't do that, because I'm a girl."'
It's a mindset she simply transferred to playing in an orchestra.
Familiarity with working in a traditionally male dominated environment,
allied with her formidable ability on the instrument, easily acquired Gail
the respect of her colleagues in the Chicago Symphony colleagues including
legendary CSO trumpeter Adolph Herseth and tuba player Arnold Jacobs, both
of whom she cites as her biggest mentors in the orchestra-and Principal
Clarinetist Larry Combs, whom Gail eventually married. "From the moment I
started," she says, "there was a great working relationship with the
orchestra."
Reluctant Role Model
But surely it must have been a little tough for her...? Pressed, Gail
finally sighs in mild exasperation at the persistent question-one she's
heard a million times. She seems slightly hesitant to be identified with
the character of female role model-or maybe it's just the label, rather
than the idea, that doesn't sit well. "I guess I had to become a role
model. I never thought I would be in that kind of position, but it sort of
came with the territory. It's funny how everyone always asks me what was
it like to work with men." One can almost see her rolling her eyes,
because she feels it really shouldn't be an issue: "What's the point to
saying ‘oh, I'm a girl, I can't be expected to do this sort of thing?"'
she asks. "I think the biggest thing we as women musicians can say,
actually, is not to say anything at all. We should let our playing speak
for itself, rather than the other way around."
Not unlike farm work, then, Gail insists that making music is really a
straightforward matter, and it should be the same no matter if you're male
or female. "Playing is something I'm expected to do. And I love doing it,
so I just go and do it."
Just Do It
That saying from a popular footwear company might well have been
invented with Gail Williams in mind. Any attempt to write a resume of her
career becomes more a case of what to leave out, rather than what to list:
principal player and soloist with countless orchestras, founding member of
half a dozen chamber groups, recitalist and clinician at conservatories
around the globe. And that's just scratching the surface. Her discography
includes three solo CDs (another in the works), and numerous recordings
with the acclaimed Summit Brass.
Some of the solo pieces are commissions, since she is a firm proponent
of original music. This is especially important in the case of the horn,
which, while luckier than other brass instruments, still has a fairly slim
body of music when compared to, say, the piano or violin. "I guess I've
always taken an active role in expanding the horn's repertoire," Gail
says. "I think it's vital that we play literature which has been written
specifically for the horn, and not just arrangements." To that end, she is
commissioning Ithaca College composer Dana Wilson to write another piece
for horn and piano. "We recorded his earlier one on CD a while ago. I'll
also premiere a new horn concerto by Anthony Plog next year." All this
activity is crowned with an honorary Doctorate of Music from Ithaca
College, Gail's alma mater.
Far from relaxing after it all, Gail then packs herself off to Jackson
Hole, Wyoming for the summers, to play Principal Horn in the Grand Teton
Music Festival. She retired from the Chicago Symphony in 1998, but even
now, despite being a full time professor of horn at Northwestern
University, Gail-a member of Local 10-208, Chicago-still plays as much or
more than she did in her orchestra job. "Grand Tetons lasts eight weeks.
That's basically my whole summer. So I can't say I really miss orchestral
playing after twenty years in Chicago, because I'm certainly still doing
enough of it!"
Mentors, Mountains, and Motherhood
For someone with such tremendous musical achievements, it's amusing to
hear Gail admit she landed with the horn almost by default. "My mother was
a music teacher," she says. "We all played instruments, but we had a house
rule: you couldn't play the same instrument as anyone else-and no double
reeds, or strings. So, the flute was out. When you have a brother who
plays clarinet and another brother who plays trumpet, there's not much
left." Um, tuba...? "No, that was my father, and my mother was a
percussionist. It had to be the horn. And besides," she adds dryly, "I'm
left-handed."
Years later, Gail unhesitatingly names retired Ithaca College professor
John Covert (Local 132-314, Ithaca NY, resigned) as her biggest musical
influence, something she shares in common with dozens of other horn
players making music around the world. "Jack is an amazing teacher, and an
amazing person. He influenced my decision to go into music full
time--quite a switch, because I was originally going to be a phys ed major
at Ithaca.
Physical fitness is still something Gail incorporates in her daily
life, readily referring to herself as "kind of an exercise nut." The horn
has a notorious reputation for difficulty, and she is adamant that you
need to be in shape to play it well. "I've done a couple of marathons,"
she says, clearing her throat modestly, but you can clearly hear the pride
in her voice as she deflates the stereotypical image of the out-of-shape,
beer-swilling brass player. "I also have a photo of me playing an alphorn
at the top of the Grand Teton, which I just climbed back in Wyoming." In
fact, she feels the AFM's most valuable contribution is that it safeguards
musicians' physical well-being. "The AFM makes working conditions so much
safer," she says. "Some employers don't understand the physical
difficulties of men and women playing instruments for long hours, and
they'd really prefer their players rather never take a break. So from a
physical point of view, I think it's not healthy to be non-unionized."
Of course, not withstanding talk of women being no different from men
in the orchestra, Gail will be the first to admit that the two will
necessarily experience the job in some very different ways. Gail joined
the CSO as Assistant Principal Horn, and was appointed by Sir Georg Solti
as Associate Principal Horn in 1984 when she was six months pregnant with
her first child.
"I'm often asked what it was like to be a pregnant horn player in a
major orchestra," she says. "This is definitely something women have to
think about. My answer is that you don't say, `Oh I'm so huge, I can’t
breathe anymore,' because over the nine months, it happens so gradually.
You just have to accommodate." Gail even tried to attack the subject from
a purely scientific viewpoint: "I wanted to get Arnold Jacobs to measure
the loss of air capacity throughout my pregnancy, but he just laughed, and
refused. He told me that I didn't want to know what I didn't have."
Pregnancy offered a few other surprises. "It's a spectacular feeling
when a baby moves to music," Gail says. "I'm sorry you men will never get
a chance to feel that. The baby just floats when you play Mozart or
Brahms, but then it's amazing what happens when the trombones come
blasting in behind you in the middle of a contemporary piece: the baby
absolutely jumps, and twists and turns, inside of you." Some children,
however, appear to be true in vitro music critics. It was Jack Covert who
offered a characteristically dry-witted prophecy prior to the birth of
Gail's second child: "With my first one, my due date was June 1st, and I
played my last symphony concert May 30th. My son Michael was a different
story. I was playing an obscure piece of chamber music by Sperger, which
has extremely high horn writing. I asked good old Jack if he knew the
piece, and he told me, `Gail, you're gonna’ knock that baby right out of
there!' Sure enough, I went into labor early, and the Doc put me to bed.
"I don't know if that's what happened, or whether my son Michael just
said, `okay, that's enough horn, I'm done!"'
She laughs wickedly at the memories, but two decades in an orchestra,
two marathons, and two children later, reluctant role model Gail Williams
doesn’t just sit and look back on it all. She looks ahead to more.
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